ShiaChat website is down today with Internal Server Error - The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
The site was up yesterday when I went to bed, about 11pm.
Don't really know when the issue would be fixed.
Shoukran you are very kind-don't said obediant- women to inform us .
ReplyDeleteseriously i read your article in other blog that's why.
But seriously i don't agree plenty because in West the woman act like demons, are greedy, lie everytime and ply the victims when the are divorce in wich they find a good opportunity for win moey easily. The society give everytime the preference to women in divorce affair ...so i don't think the Western woman are good model od freedom" but decadent ones . The feminism in Wast is a catastrophe for the Christian order know is the Muslim world the NWO try to destroy by starting to the family...
About sex i think it don't should be a taboo like in Christian ear , same era there was a lot of brothels...this puritanism was not complete it's seems, only mondane...so i think it's an realty if a man is not happy with his wife in bed it's very nefarious and in this case don't surprise if he find other way.
Should be a middle way between slavery of the EST(and the slavery of women in the West are more discret, hidden, but a lot of work in office and can keep their job only by accept to be sexually exploited by bosses)and the degenerate women of the West.
Al ghareeb75
The post on my other blog is my view and quotes from newspapers. The obedience wives club is just like any other cultist club. It's made up of a bunch of attention seeking cheerleaders, who would do anything to get notice. Islam is just a vehicle for them to peddle their smut.
ReplyDeleteIf a man is unhappy in his bed with his wife, then it's probably his fault.
I'm not interested to have western women vs eastern women dialogue. You are free to hold your personal views, I'm pretty sure a lot of people would disagree with you.
Since how the appreciation of the "lot of people" is requires for to be right or wrong in a moral question ?
ReplyDeleteespecially from a Shia who is minority but don't see in it any problems for affirm Truth Islam ?! ...really one among the first thing a real free people learn is "don't care about what people will said or think about you choice, way of thinking ect ..."
It is also an fondamental wisdom from Ali(as) <<if all the people will stand against me but i'm in the right path i don't change ..."something like this...
This notion of "lot of people" are irrelevant in a discussion. Discussion you decline.
Anyway there are as well lot of people for understand know the catastrophe of feminism in the West and there critics are from the Western sociologist
About West and Est it's like for men and Women , Night and days etc ...there are differences in the Nature or creation of All^h azza wa jal and in other case we will be just a series of robots, same everywhere ... how many times under the names of "freedom", fight for difference" we see just the destruction or the denial of naturals and ontological differences. this kind of "modern ideal" sound like : the goulag is a very good place because everybody is equals? ...sory i have others dreams ...
3: You're remark about "man not happy in bed by automatically his fault" is particularly foolish, childish and can be a joke but not serious .
This kind of denial of the reality of sex sound like a bigot in Christian era in Puritanist times but not from serious analysis.
What i send you was not aggressive but the manner you answer proof you're not mature for a real serious discussion .
I will make a topic about the destructive feminism , the nefarious influences of Western modernism on the Muslim communuty and we will see if "a lot of people " disagree ? ...even it's not a proof for anything in the yes of a real free man and not the false liberty of modern decadent...
I hope that when you make your topic you use spell check and have a good proof reader.
ReplyDeleteAlso you retard the obedient wives club also encourages lesbian sex in front of the husband....this is haram.
ReplyDeleteHello ImAli, welcome to my blog. How are you doing today?
ReplyDeleteTo the original poster. If you feel good bashing the western world and feminism for all ills of the western society then that's only your personal view. A lot of people would disagree with you. :) But I am sure you would have a lot of cheerleaders that would agree to whatever you are saying.
I am not trying to be aggressive. This is just the way I am. :)
Sorry you saying <> and not <> ...but this remark is certainly welcome in older gal-snobbish- posh-leftist club...but it's still sound foolish from somone who hold an Islamic blog .
ReplyDeleteeven the majority are not a proof for moral points the majority can be witness of universal and undeniable truth like the sun is shining, the sky is blue , a cat is not a dog ect ...in the same way it's universal to know the reality i tell you about sex in the marriage . We all know a man can run away from a beautiful women if she don't give him satisfaction in "bed matter" and opposite a women less beautiful can keep a man if she is nice in the way of sex ...and don't speak about faith, moral virtues who should be "more important" than sex it is an sophism ...because the qualities who bring happiness in the couple is among the moral virtues of woman and man also ...
Maybe you are very young and those things will be not expose to you and in this case i apologize and don't insist...
But because you 're joking about serious subject i will do and give you this link :
http://www.henrymakow.com/schopenhauer.html
Salam
Gypsy I think it is time (after Ramadan) to gather some of the active sisters on ShiaChat together and make that blog you suggested or make a private forum where no one can see our conversations. UmmAhmad brought up in the sisters forum that she is clearly not comfortable discussing certain matters on the secular forums, the brothers on SC insist on reading it, and feel it is their right to know our personal matters even thought we ask them not to join. She is not the only one who feels this way on the forum, so I assume there are many interesting topics and issues that are not being brought up or discussed due to the sisters wanting to avoid hassle and embarrassment from the male members.
ReplyDeleteI am not a feminists, I am a housewife and mother of 2 who quite a good paying job to stay home and take care of a family. However I find it hilarious that men are always crying about feminism because it is the same abusive nature of these men crying about it that helped bring feminism to what it is today. There wouldn't be feminism if it weren't for men behaving like tyrants behind closed doors, making the women in their life want to run as far away as possible. You can't blame everything on the joos and the media.
ReplyDeleteYou said " these men crying about it that helped bring feminism "
Deleteso all the man who criticize feminism are bad, Tyrants ect ...typical narrow view point of radical feminist . It's totalitarian because in this way no critics is possible ...when i said those kind of thinking lead fast in a goulag i m not joking or be provocative.
"Im ali" is a Masculin name ? Why choice a Masculin name ?...
I think why not have a private forum only for women . should be a women moderator.Maybe some mods will have a access.
but i hope it will be for others purpose to said all days : " all the man are pigs etc ..." i exagerate but the way you speak sound like this .
Nice for you to be married and mother of two. I hope you are happy in your life .
I know the are real problems with abusers . But the way you take is not about . you are about denial of the reality about divorce in our society, and the awful behavior of the women as well . So women can't be bad ? ...only man are bad ?! ...
The most number of suicide is among the man because the betrayal or abusive behavior of women but this is not important ! ...
The facts speak for the reality.
ImAli,
ReplyDeleteI'm still working on the idea. Do you think the forum format is better than a blog?
I'm seeing more sisters getting frustrated with the Sisters forum. The SC Sisters forum doesn't really serve the need of the sisters. The ever helpful brothers need to learn when to shut-up and stop meddling in women related discussions. Unfortunately, the brothers never learn the proper etiquette of online disscussions.
I am not a feminist*, I am a housewife and mother of 2 who quit* a good paying job to stay home and take care of a family.
ReplyDeleteno delete or edit in the comments LOOL. My last post is making me itch :S
I think somewhere private would be great....blog, forum, anything. I don't know about you but I don't really want people we don't know stumbling on to the blog or forum by using google and I don't care to have the brothers travelling there because they haven't found anything interesting in the secular forum. We need somewhere safe to discuss important and personal issues freely without ridicule.
ReplyDeleteWhen the brothers are unable to argue anything properly, they have to resort to the cheap tactics of accusing women of being feminists. They are probably deeply insecure.
ReplyDeleteGeez I need some coffee....when I said secular forum I meant SISTER'S forum, and I don't want any people from the secular forums that other moms go to travelling to our blog or forum because we are not looking for secular opinion. Once again I got my last post wrong....uff too early in the morning and no coffee hahahaha.
ReplyDeleteWhat "they are lesbian " i read it sound like "wahabis " staff ?! ...There are several misunderstanding : i try to copy , quote you but it doesn't work in my previous post.
ReplyDeleteYou said " If you feel good bashing the western world and feminism for all ills of the western society " ..for the ills of wester society i will not bashing the moon inhabitants or Martians ...i m not reduce the ills of society to extremism feminism but it is among the causes of the disorder.
We should stop this discussion because it's not the topic of the article. Plus i thank you were a women for answer this way . I m not kidding. Gypsy sound feminine plus the pink in your blog ...not really the answer sounded like hysterical feminist woman, young student who start to be brainwash by the leftist feminist in this college (I m not aggressive but it's my way , every body who read my post know i speak this way anti-NWO and their mignons the leftists-goulagists, feminism, modernism and so on ;
So i beloved maybe you are teenager sister and it was no good to speak more about adult things ...
and yes the English is not my mother tongue so i make mistakes.
Have good Ramadan Brother i didn't want argue but that's right we disagree profoundly about sociological and political matters ...but i m sur if we have a public logical discussion i will proof mathematically i ve right. But each think what he want until he don't harm others .Sorry for the harsh way sometimes a take with you but we can't said your first answer was not "provocative"! ...
Salam.
ImAli,
ReplyDeleteall your comments are awesome, as usual. :)
I also quit my well paying job to look after my family.
Once the SC forum get online, I'll post a topic to solicit ideas from other sisters.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteHave a good day. Thank you for stopping on my blog and expressing your views freely.
Now, we women need to find a place where we can do that without dealing with all the nonsenses from the ever thoughtful brothers.
The gender of the blog is not said . I fund this blog by google about Islamic issue and the different sects is interesting; after i don't care if you feel better under a masculin name, if you re the first who don't discuss properly with logical points and accuse others to do that.
Deleteclassic " Accusatory inversion"
So the subject of this blog are not specific for woman? ...make a forum but im sur some will come under feminin gender like you do with masculin surnames ...
I don't understand the problem in shiachat because if someones go to far you can tel the mods ? !...
What are you talking about masculine name? I told you already Im Ali or Em Ali means Ali's mother in Syrian or Lebanese dialect (Um or Om Ali in proper Arabic). It doesn't mean I am Ali you simpleton. To think you are the one accusing people of bringing up invalid points. It seems you have ran out of things to make your argument valid and now you are re nitpicking about usernames you don't understand LOOOL
DeleteI'm a female. Gypsy sounds female to me.
DeleteBut it is in fact gender neutral.
No Gypsy he was referring to my name...he brought it up in his other comment.
DeleteThis is what he said in one of his previous comments
"Im ali" is a Masculin name ? Why choice a Masculin name ?..."
Actually you douche we are grown women and both happily married. Wow it took you this long to figure out that we are female? ROFL you are the smart one aren't you. You are the one who sounds like the teenager not us! If you had any sense you would realize that we have no problem with discussing these sexual matters, what we do have a problem with is discussing it with strange boys and men online. And yes you should stop posting because you aren't making any sense, I can't read past the first few sentences of your comments without becoming confused and disoriented.
ReplyDeleteAlso the obedient wives club encourages group sex with the wives and husband....there isn't anything halal or mature about this! It is nothing short of disgusting and immoral.
" you aren't making any sense" give proof of that§ for the moment zero , jus gossip, denials etc ...if you don't understand it s not my fault or show me what's wrong? ...
DeleteI knew for nearly sur it was a disoriented women who can speak like that. But what i said it 's a first glance the blog speak about "different sect " and not specific women subject. Only the pink color can eventually indicate the gender .
You transform everything. Even your blog about Indonesians don't look especially for "woman only" ...
Your lack of logic and your Accusatory inversion and lack of respect about different views is boring and very sad for you as well.
Anyone honest who read the post will testifies it's you who start to be very provocative and childish.
about correctness . don't make public blog if you are unable to deal with "private" aspect of marriage, couple problems etc ... anuone can make a comment on your blog.
I didn't knew about the "cult "you speak about , sound sunnis ...
No...you really don't make much sense in all honesty.
DeleteAlso...do you realize that you can make blogs and forums private/invite only?
"No...you really don't make much sense in all honesty." It mean just nothing in term of logic and honesty ...just judgment without any serious point ...if i were misogynist i will said typical modern women mannered.
Deletethere are some orthographic mistake who don't prevent understanding .
No blog is not on invit when it can be reach by a simple google search i make this morning.
Or you should write it in a front page ...
Very unfair attitude in general.
But the worst it's you feel "very advanced" person with Haughty and unfair attitude like that...we are really in a end of time ...
I don't think having your own private blog/forum is unfair at all. Women can have their own private space. Men also can have their own segregated environment. After all, Islam does promote segregation in the society.
DeleteIt's a joke or natural bad faith ?
DeleteI said it can be good to have this ! ...
What is in general unfair is your attitude !
Your practice "Accusatory inversion " every time . If you don't know what it mean it mean : "someone who accuse others of what he do" .
You make tyrannically judgment without any solid argumentation .
That's is enough for show your irrational aggressiveness, ignorance and incapacity to deal with different views who differ from your narrow and easy ones...
I was very kind with and avoid to cite Hadith for not expose the wisdom to your haughtiness and disdain for the true! ...
Plus your your not straight about the subject properly : You make an article here : http://malaysiashia.blogspot.fr/
When you where you react strangely like old bigot in Victorian era about the fact an Islamic group advise women to have good sex relation with their husband . Really nothing to make a big deal about it for normal people ...
and there are Hadiths Shia who go this way about the duties of women toward husband ...if you fell to much "advanced and superior people " for Islam so make your proper religion ! ...or go see a modern-corrupt-Mullâh who look for demagogic, marketing Islam, who will told you what you want to ear only ...in those time of corruption im sur if you look hard you will find it easy .Or maybe just a good Shia who will make Taqiyya face to your irrational claims.
In fact "the dicussion with women kill the heart" prophet (saw)said .
But only after you precise here in this forum this group practice lesbiannism and others harams things ...but it 's an other subject and the reason for why your reacted hysterically was only because i didn't see anything wrong about learning to be a good in sexuals affairs ...
You even make oneself a fool by saying if a man is not satisfy with his wife he should by the only guilty ! that's was enough ridiculous for emanate from teenage girls who feel offended about those matters and don't know the realties of life and men ... i m worry your not teenager ...
After you make accusation worst than that; accusations or suggest for the only "good reason" someone disagree with your low views. So Man who criticize feminism are "abusers", tyrants , etc ...ridiculous. don't deserve the females gender to argue this caricatural and shameful way.
Pretend not understand what i said after all this pitiful and profoundly dishonest attitude.
The only answer is : go buy you a brain! ...
I will keep this conversation in screenshot.
That's why i can affirm you 're not logic nor embarrassed with fairness in the manner you behave in this case .
What you said and behave are very secular in fact and this lapsus was not for nothing .
Anonymous.....how on earth do you feel you can contribute to a private forum or private blog where women want to discuss issues about menstrual cycles, breastfeeding, pregnancy, and other such things that you have never experienced?
DeleteI really don't know why so many of the brothers have a problem with us wanting privacy about these issues.
Hey anonymous poster,
DeleteStill not interested to have a discussion with you on the Malaysian Obsessive sex cult. Since you are interested in the club, have you tried getting in touch with the members of that group and tell them about duties of women towards their husband which doesn't include "whoring themselves" and threesome. Right now their mind seems to be completely in the gutter.
Like I said, if you don't like my views, then no need to inflict yourself those views.
When someone are incapable to produce polite and well argued discussion it said sometimes he s not interested ...i never said i was interested by this cult if you read properly what i said.
DeleteIt's a shame on you to interpret and deform what i wrote. Whoring is obviously no good but make a false accusations, lying! is disgusting as well ...
the real sins are not always in the exterior appearance...the virtues as well... Gypsy the way you speak are more like "Desperate Housewives saison" than a educated religious woman ?! ...
ImAli : Nothing prevent you to make a forum . I don't know how to make it in easy way . But i know some forum where only registered can have access; I ve never said i was bad idea ...better to not read females gossips and pathological view points about "how the males are bad etc ..."
but it will not resolve all the problems you complain about just move them ...
anyway maybe you can't understand ...
so have good Siyam and repent...
I still look here for know what's hap with Shiachat ...
Anonymous
DeleteAlso, don't forget to repent for all your accusations here.
Have a good day.
" Accusatory inversion" always and again. We should stop this argue now but until you want arrogantly the last word i will probably answer because is you re fault entirely if the things turn like that.
DeleteWE don't want to talk about men problems you fool. These are many other issues we face as women that have nothing to do with men. Geeez get your head out of the sand, the world doesn't revolve around you.
DeleteOk Gypsy sounds great. I don't know if I will be on SC today because I need to make kusa and stuffed grape leaves....this takes forever.
ReplyDeleteI would love to see people like Maryaam, Ruqaya's Amal, hameedeh,and UmmAhmad participating...I hope they will join.
IM GOKU FROM SHIACHAT AND SHIACHATS DOWN=[ NOOOOO
ReplyDeleteOhhhh anonymous I just noticed that you asked why I chose a masculine name.
ReplyDeleteIm Ali means Ali's mother in Syrian and Lebanese dialect (Im or Em = Um or Om)...my son's name is Ali. It is not a masculine name at all oh wise one ::rolling eyes::
Oh! oh ! ...at first glance Im mean I am .Ok i see .
DeleteDon't worry my anime boy Goke, I assume they are working on it because if you try to join now the server login prompt pops up....before it was nothing. I guess that means someone is working on the server at the moment?
ReplyDeleteHello Goku,
ReplyDeleteI'm confident that the site will be up sooner or later. I think someone is looking at it because now you get the login console if you go to the ShiaChat site.
Ya Aba is active on the forum nowadays. Hopefully he's on it.
Shiachat is ok now . i hope you will stop boring me now !
ReplyDeletebut i will open a topic Insh allâh about :
How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women
http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
INshallah your stupid topic gets locked and trashed because we have enough conspiracy theorists lately.
ReplyDelete